
Adobe pricing sucks
January 20, 2012Back in 2008 I had a little rant about Adobe’s pricing model for countries outside the US, specifically Australia. Since then I’ve spoken to several Adobe employees at conferences in the US about this, but have received no satisfactory answer as to why there is such a discrepancy between the prices I see on the US website and the prices Adobe insists I pay because I live in Australia. Those employees were as baffled as me, and I got feedback that the pricing in other countries, such as the UK, was just as confusing when compared to the US pricing.
So why bring this up again? Because someone from Adobe called me the other day and offered to look into the pricing situation. She called me back yesterday and said that the reason she was given for the price discrepancies was ‘taxes’. Well, to put not too fine a point on it, that’s just bullsh*t.
Here’s why: Australia has the GST, which is a flat 10% tax on ALL goods and services. If you buy something from a store here, there are no state taxes, county taxes, city taxes, other sales taxes and levies like in the US. In Australia you pay the ticketed price on the item, which invariably includes the GST (e.g. a $99 item is actually $90 retail price + $9 GST). That’s it. Very simple.
The GST applies to most goods and services purchased within Australia, including software. It applies to goods purchased from outside Australia if the cost of the item exceeds $1000, otherwise the item is GST-free.
So with that information, let’s look at how Adobe prices its software in Australia and the US. I’ve used Adobe Captivate 5.5 and the eLearning Suite in my examples, both the upgrade prices and the full price (for Captivate 5.5 only), and have used www.xe.com for converting the prices from Australian dollars (AU$) to US dollars (US$) and vice versa. All price conversions were done on the same day within about an hour, so currency fluctuations aren’t an issue.
Summary
For ease of comparison, I’ve converted all Australian dollar prices to US dollars — see below for screen shots of conversion values.
| Product | Adobe US store |
Adobe AU store |
Price difference |
| Captivate 5.5 Upgrade | $149 | $265 | $116 (~80%) more in Aust |
| Captivate 5.5 New | $799 | $1389 | $590 (~75%) more in Aust |
| eLearning Suite Upgrade | $399 | $695 | $296 (~75%) more in Aust |
Bottom line: Adobe charges its Australian customers nearly double the price it charges for its US customers. A 10% tax is neither here nor there with that sort of price gouging, which is why I said that the explanation of ‘taxes’ was bullsh*t. Besides, the Australian prices I found on the Adobe store already INCLUDE the 10% GST, so those 75–80% increases are on top of the tax.
Buying from the US Adobe store is NOT an option — while I can provide a US address as I have family there, I need a US credit card too. So I either don’t buy upgrades regularly (thus doing Adobe out of a revenue stream), or I find other ways to buy the product without going through Adobe at all (still doing Adobe out of a revenue stream!).
Would anyone from Adobe like to explain why we get screwed on the prices we pay for a DOWNLOADABLE product, which most likely comes from US servers no matter where we live and pay for it?
And I’d be happy for those from other countries outside the US to comment on the prices they pay (converted to US dollars for a fair comparison).
Screen shots
US prices: $149 to upgrade to Captivate 5.5 from Captivate 5 (which I have) and $399 to upgrade to the eLearning Suite.
Those US upgrade prices in Australian currency:

Australian prices: $255 for the Captivate upgrade, $669 for the eLearning Suite upgrade

Those upgrade prices in US currency:


To buy Captivate 5.5 without an upgrade (i.e. new), the prices are US$799 in the US and AU$1337 in Australia:







After giving this one a good squizz, it appears that your heading regarding Adobe’s pricing is EXACT (spot on).
I have no idea what drango wanker they put in charge of pricing (or customer service for that matter [which by-the-by is a complete oxymoron—emphasis on the MORON] for Adobe) but they obviously don’t care about mate’s rates or any other sense of fair pricing.
I can’t even imagine why they would ignore this issue and cut their revenue stream(s) from such a wide-ranging population of folks—surely you Aussies buy as much software as us Yanks?!?
It’s quite unfathomable to me how they get away with it (both the price gouging and the obtuse attitude towards their AU customers!).
I say we should start up a petition to boycott Adobe or start up a website to get the word out to the general population!
The dutch customer service told me (about 6 months ago) that we had to pay more because customer sevice in Europe was free and in the US customers must pay for the serviceline.
About the service: realy friendly people who don`t know much about Captivate and are willing to report bugs to the design team.
About bugs: ……
Hi Rhonda
Yes, I know just how you feel :)
My last two upgrades of Corel products and Roxio’s video editing software were exorbitantly priced on oz web sites. Fortunately each could be purchased via their US web sites.
I also managed to obtain a promo coupon improving the pricing even more. Each item was purchased at less than half the Oz price.
Kind regards
Peter
BTW Have you tried Amazon as an alternative (you probably have), they’re usually cheaper than Adobe anyway :)
Adobe Acrobat X upgrade US$199 at Adobe and US$184 and Amazon
Regards
Peter
Thanks Peter.
Yes, I tried Amazon several times and was always given a message that they couldn’t sell to me at that price (or at all) because of where I lived. However, I went through most of the purchase process on Amazon the other day and I wasn’t stopped, so it’s possible that that’s an option.
However, the upgrade product on Amazon is the DVD with associated postage ($13) and shipping time — I can’t purchase the *download* from Amazon, only Adobe (or illegally, which I won’t do).
–Rhonda
It’s the same weird thing here in Germany, btw…
UK Price of Captivate 5.5, From:
http://volumelicensing.adobe.com/DRHM/store?Action=DisplayProductSearchResultsPage&SiteID=avleuweb&Locale=en_GB&CallingPageID=HomePage&keywords=captivate&x=17&y=10
Adobe Captivate 5.5
Go beyond presentations and create interactive eLearning without programming.
Starting at £725.89 £631.21 ex. VAT
Thanks Stephen. Those prices are for volume licensing. From http://www.xe.com on 24 January 2012, full Captivate 5.5 at 725 GBP is US$1130 and 631 GBP is US$982. That website has the upgrade price as 135 GBP, which is US$210.
However, for the single license situation (http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/captivate.html), the Captivate 5.5 prices are:
* Upgrade: 143 GBP (which is US$222)
* Full: I couldn’t find the full price. The FAQ just had a link to the Adobe Store and that took me to the Australian store.
And the single license eLearning Suite upgrade is 380 GBP (US$591)
So it looks like the UK prices are way more than the US prices too, but less than the Australian prices.
–Rhonda
Thanks – I used to be a re-seller but Adobe always gave much smaller discounts than other vendors. Their behaviour in removing functions in Acrobat 6 upgrade from the existing ones in v5 annoyed me the most but the upgrade v9 to v10 has little added value too.
Adobe’s pricing policy is a puzzle to us in the UK as well. I see Stephen has already posted the prices. I’ve heard many excuses ranging from taxation to reseller profit margins and support. I’ve even spoken to Adobe staff about this but there is only a collective shrug of the shoulders. Obviously I’m not talking to the right people but I do know that they have passed on our comments. To be fair to them this is not just a problem with their TechComm or e-Learning products. It is the same across their whole product suite. If we want to get this changed we’d need to direct our comments to those with influence in this arena.
Hi Colum
Yes, I agree this price gouging is across all Adobe products. As you know, I featured Captivate as it’s software I use and because I also had a point of comparison with my post from 2008, which also featured Captivate upgrade pricing.
The biggest problem is finding out who has influence in this arena…
–Rhonda